Rachel and Jonathan

Rachel and Jonathan
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Sunday, November 20, 2011

Torments of Conscience

Dear Readers,
Before I go to sleep tonight I wanted to just touch on a point.  This is regarding New Church Theology and my ongoing ordeal with Rachel and The New Church of Dawson Creek.  I called someone out because of lies,  disloyalty, cruelty, and evil.  I admitted my wrong in reacting to this person but that person cannot admit her wrong and the New Church teach of love, forgiveness, and doing good and here is a prime example of me against all odds, torment, rejection, and members of a Church telling me I was wrong in my love of God and I not only forgiving them and embracing them. I only wanted to point out the hypocrisy of one following God and offering unconditional love and forgiveness or trying to prove a doctrine of man right over God. So I will use part of their text which Pastor Glenn probably used in his sermon today at church.  It is Arcana Coelestia passage 5036.  I spoke out against evil that was done to me, judgement of the spiritual and of the mind, I also spoke out on lies and arrogance. This was not an attack on the Church but it was a reaction to an attack on my faith, my friendship and my relationship with Rachel was nothing but lies that she told me and a lot of it had to do with her narrow minded New Church Worldview. How can one love others without seeing the good in them. I was told by her all the time of my differences and my weirdness and everything wrong so I concur there is a part in this passage about Torments of Conscience and that is that is what Rachel and the Pastors tried to use against me. They tried to make me feel like my faith was false and the love and my calling was not real and they went against their own doctrine and I only called them on what I saw as hypocrisy. I had nothing but love and respect and still do for all of them but I will not be a pariah, villian, or a victim.  I will continue to let the truth shine in the light.
Also read this sermon "Beware of Hypocrisy" by David C Roth of the Australian chapter of the New Church.  http://www.newchurch.org.au/?id=305

AC 5036. And put him into the prison house. That this signifies as to false-speaking against good, is evident from the signification of being "put into the prison house, and kept bound there," as being to be let into temptations as to false-speaking against good, of which in what follows; but something must first be said in regard to temptations. Scarcely anyone in the Christian world at this day knows whence temptations come. He who undergoes them has no other belief than that they are torments arising from the evils which are within man, and which at first make him uneasy, then anxious, and finally torment him; but he is altogether ignorant that they are effected by the evil spirits who are with him. The reason why he is ignorant of this, is that he does not believe that he is in company with spirits while he lives in the world, and scarcely believes that there is any spirit with him; when yet as to his interiors man is continually in the society of spirits and angels.5006, 5008, 5009, 5022, 5028), he then comes into temptations, and by evil spirits--who are all merely natural--he is accused especially of speaking falsely against good; as for example of having thought and said that the neighbor ought to be benefited, and having also approved this in act, and yet now meaning by the neighbor only those who are in good and truth, and not those who are in evil and falsity and cannot be amended; and consequently, because he is no longer willing to benefit the evil, or if he will benefit them, he desires them to be punished for the sake of their amendment, and for the purpose of averting evil from his neighbor, they charge him with thinking and speaking what is false, and with not thinking as he speaks.
[2] As regards temptations, they take place when the man is in the act of regeneration; for no one can be regenerated unless he undergoes temptations, and they then arise from evil spirits who are about him. For the man is then let into the state of evil in which he is, that is, in which is that very (life) which is his own; and when he comes into this state, evil or infernal spirits encompass him, and when they perceive that he is inwardly protected by angels, the evil spirits excite the falsities which he has thought, and the evils which he has done, but the angels defend him from within. It is this combat which is perceived in the man as temptation, but so obscurely that he scarcely knows otherwise than that it is merely an anxiety; for man--especially if he believes nothing about influx--is in a state that is wholly obscure, and he perceives scarcely a thousandth part of the things about which the evil spirits and angels are contending. And yet the battle is then being fought for the man and his eternal salvation, and it is fought from the man himself; for they fight from those things which are in man, and concerning them. That this is the case has been given me to know with the utmost certainty. I have heard the combat, I have perceived the influx, I have seen the spirits and angels, and at the time and afterward have conversed with them on the subject.
[3] As before said, temptations take place chiefly at the time when the man is becoming spiritual; for he then apprehends spiritually the truths of doctrine. The man is often unaware of this, but still the angels with him see in his natural things the spiritual; for his interiors are then open toward heaven. For this reason also the man who has been regenerated is among angels after his life in the world, and there both sees and perceives the spiritual things which before appeared to him as natural. When therefore a man has come into such a state, then in temptation, when assaulted by evil spirits, he can be defended by angels, who then have a plane into which they can operate; for they flow into what is spiritual with him, and through this into what is natural.
[4] But when ultimate truth has been withdrawn, and therefore the man has nothing by which to defend himself against those who are natural (n.
[5] Take another example. Because when a man becomes spiritual, he no longer believes it holy and for pious use to give to monasteries, or even to churches which abound in wealth; and because before he became spiritual he had thought that such giving was holy and pious, they charge him with falsehood, and stir up all his thoughts which he had before cherished as to its being holy and pious, and also the works which he had done from such thought. And so they do in numberless other cases, but let these few examples serve by way of illustration. These spirits enter principally into the affections which the man had before, and excite them, and also the false and evil things which he had thought and done; and thus they bring him into anxiety, and often into doubt even to despair.
[6] Such then is the source of spiritual anxieties, and of the torments which are called torments of conscience. By influx and communication these things appear to the man as if they were in himself. One who knows and believes this may be compared to a man who sees himself in a mirror, and knows that it is not himself that appears in it, or on the other side of it, but only his image; whereas one who does not know and believe this, may be compared to a person who sees himself in a mirror, and supposes it is himself that appears there, and not his image.

This is in no means an attempt to twist any of their teachings but to give them a chance to look in the mirror of how they treat others.

God Bless All

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